The days when Madonna was young/hot and her overt sexuality wasn't as creepy...

[Mister Obvious]

I've never been a Madonna fan perse...

She had some good songs, there were a few.

I'll probably post them on this thread.

The official video for "Into The Groove" appears to be a promotional video for the 1985 movie "Desperately Seeking Susan" which Madonna also starred in. I actually saw it once a long time ago, it was a fairly enjoyable little movie, I recall. I don't actually remember anything about the plot though.

Correct me if I'm totally wrong, those old enough to remember, but...

I don't think Madonna was ever even considered all that hot or desirable by men in general during her heyday. I've never met a dude who considered her that hot, or remembered the height of her fame all that fondly on a personal level.

I think the reason for this was her sort of risque sexuality, her overt sexual expression... and perhaps it was a stylistic issue as well. In general, I do not believe men enjoy it when a woman comes on super strong and displays her sexuality so publicly. Especially not the men of the 'olden days' as it were.

But now as a 62 year old woman, Madonna still pulls that risque sexual shit, and it's not hot anymore... I think it's widely agreed upon that it crossed the realm into "creepy" post circa 2010.

In the early 2000s, during the era of her last good album, "Music"...

In my opinion, Madonna was still inarguably hot. See the videos I will post later in the thread as examples.

Upon the release of "Music", Madonna was 42 years old. Some people hold up decently to that age, and she looked fine, had a nice body, and was sexy.

But things start going downhill rapidly at that age and fast forward to 2010, as a 52 year old woman, it started to get into "creepy" territory when she would display her sexuality in the same manner she had in her younger years.

Here's a fact...

I believe older chicks can definitely be sexy. But that is MY opinion, and it is the opinion of a female, no less. Therefore, there is no way for me to speak on the male perspective, and I would say that a woman is far more likely to consider a female over 50 "sexy" than a man is... why? Because of admiration. In many cases, females look up to other females, and if there is an example of a fun, spicy, sexy older female, they will look to that as a beacon of hope for their own future. "I can still be fun over 50?! Yay!"

One example that comes to mind of a woman over 50 who I consider incredibly sexy is Michelle Gomez, here is her thread: https://www.sectual.com/thread-3435.html

Gomez has always had an innate sexiness to her that age has not diminished in my opinion... her smouldering, captivating gaze is still wholly intact. But she is a respectable woman, never TRYING to be sexual, just being so naturally. She simply can't help it... it's within her very essence.

But Madonna is no Michelle Gomez.

For example, currently Madonna is dating a man 36 years her junior. His name is Ahlamalik Williams, and here they are pictured together: https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2...113377.png

Do I believe that he is genuinely sexually attracted to Madonna? Absolutely not. Do I believe any of her other MUCH younger loverboys were truly attracted to her? Not really... I mean, perhaps the excitement and novelty of dating THE Madonna was a genuine draw for them in the beginning, but I'm sure that wore off rather quickly.

I have no doubt that she pays these men to have a presence in her life... much the same as a younger woman gets involved with an older man for security and resources. The difference? Younger women are genuinely sexually attracted to older men, in many cases. Apart from some type of unhealthy obsession, or "mommy issues" in some form, I do not believe a younger man can truly be attracted to an older woman. If anyone has experience proving otherwise, feel free to share.

On top of her creepy lack of self awareness and the inability to "dial back" her sexuality to a respectable/acceptable level, Madonna is also outspoken about politics and other social issues in an incredibly unattractive way. All things considered, there really just isn't much to like about her.

To summarize...

I believe it is entirely possible for an older woman to exhibit her sexuality in a way that is not creepy. If it isn't forced, if it comes from a natural place, then I see no issue with it, and I think the world needs ladies like that. I personally find them very enjoyable, and to tell you the truth... if I live to any considerable age, I expect to be one of those ladies.

But Madonna? No. She's JUST creepy at this point...

And don't even get me started on her bizarre obsession with adopting little black children and making them fan her like little slaves on social media...

One need only scroll through her Instagram to see various examples of inappropriate display of these children...

https://www.instagram.com/madonna

But here's a direct link to what I'm referencing:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEBfhluhzTO
https://twitter.com/Madonna/status/1295663384441040896

That horridly unsettling behavior is leagues worse than her overt sexuality at age 60+... I don't think anyone could argue otherwise.

Those little children are not your toys or your trophies, Madonna... they are individuals with destinies and unique purpose in this world. Just stop being disgusting.

[Mister Obvious]

And now I will post what I consider to be Madonna's handful of good songs...

[Mister Obvious]

"Like a Virgin" was okay, but not really worth my time embedding, and for what it's worth...

It was creepy even back then...

[Mister Obvious]

I have a surprising addition for the "sexy older lady" collection too...

I stumbled across this movie "Vamps" (2012) the other day, it's a "free with ads" YouTube upload...

It has a fabulous all-star cast with actors from the 80s-90s era.

It's a delightful little movie.

And I couldn't help but notice how attractive Sigourney Weaver (of all people, right?!) was in a few of her scenes...



6:17; 33:23; 1:03:21...

Sigourney was 63 years old at the time of filming, and in my opinion, she nailed this role. She was playful, enlivening, exciting, and those qualities made her sexy.

[somethingelseishere]

I always thought Madonna was a beautiful girl. Yeah, hot, sexy, nice-looking, all that.
But it wasn't her scantily-clad appearances that did that for me.

In my opinion, she was her hottest in the Live To Tell video. Her natural beauty wasn't at all
hidden or diminished just because she was fully-dressed. I think it even helped to amp it up a little.

Sure, I'm a typical male in a lot of ways. I love female bodies and I don't punish myself for it. But I think
a degree of modesty is kinda hot. You don't have to cover yourself from neck to ankle to "be a good girl"
but neither do you have to walk around in bras and ass shorts to be appealing.

There's a time and place for everything.

[somethingelseishere]

I love this song! I started to work on a cover but whoopsie... lol

[Dark Dick]

[Luxury-Taco]

I don't think Madonna was ever even considered all that hot or desirable by men in general during her heyday.

Maybe not by men, but definitely by boys; it depends on the age of the audience. In the 80's she was like the living wet dream of every tween/teenaged boy in America. All the boys fantasized about her, and all the girls wanted to be her. It was definitely a teen thing. Pretty sure our parents weren't giving much of a fuck about her, or they were appalled by her, depending on the family. I remember being 14 and having a feminist organization come to our school, and the entire school was required to go into the auditorium and sit down and listen to these women talk about how dangerous Madonna was to our culture, etc. Think about that. Organizations going into schools around the country to inform the kids about the dangers of Madonna. That was real. 

Things have gone 180 since then, where nowadays you are an empowered feminist if you have an onlyfans page. If a mother wants to groom her kid to become a youtuber, so that by the time she's 18 she's got, say, 25k subs, and then she starts an onlyfans page and starts making 10k a month immediately off of her already existing subscription base, which then starts growing massively, and she's mentally healthy and enjoying the fruits of her labor, well... some would call that a smart career path.

This is why I think every political movement is like a bowel movement. It's all bullshit. You whine about one thing and dedicate your life to it, and 20 years later your entire movement supports the polar opposite view of everything you stood for. Look at the Democrats. They were literally the Confederates in the civil war. The Republicans were the party of Lincoln. I mean, what?

I've walked this planet for almost 520 years, and the amount of flipflopping and fuckery that I've witnessed is enough to make me wonder if it would be that much of a loss to have an asteroid wipe this place clean. It's insanity, plain and simple. 

How to do life:
1. Shut the fuck up about your ideology unless you have an awareness that extends outside of your own ass. 
2. Don't hurt people

I digress. I personally thought Madonna was at her hottest in 2005. Reason being that she was in incredible shape as a dancer by that point, and she had found this perfect spot between her prowess and humility to navigate with. Also I've always loved her eyes, if I can just scorpio-out for a moment. Same with Dolly Parton. I see a similarity there. That all said, Mo > peak Madonna, all day long. Not hyperbole.

[somethingelseishere]

I like that song too! And it's another good example of being sexy/sultry AND classy.

[user328]

She was somewhat hot back in the day, but I never thought she was all that pretty. Then again, I don't find many Italian women pretty. The ethnic look starts to really stand out when they get older. They eventually end up with Pelosi face.

[user328]

In the 80's she was like the living wet dream of every tween/teenaged boy in America. All the boys fantasized about her, and all the girls wanted to be her.

Evidently it depended on where you lived too. Boys and girls alike thought her sluttiness was way over the top in the small Southern town where I grew up. Girls were still concerned about keeping their reputations, and boys didn't particularly care for used up skanks.

[Mister Obvious]

https://pagesix.com/2022/05/20/madonna-f...-instagram

Oh she don't like it when that leftie censorship targets HER.

Never forget...

https://youtu.be/87uZ_atahP8

[Guest]

Dude her puffer fish face

If mr plastic surgery did that to me I would be pissed