03-22-2021, 12:32 AM
(03-21-2021, 10:57 PM)Mister Obvious Wrote: 41:14 amen, so true. This is why I absolutely do not believe people can change. We are who we are. Period.
I didn't extrapolate an inability to change from his explanation of enduring consciousness. He didn't say enduring personality. I think there's not even really a fine line between the two.
If people couldn't change then raising kids, brainwashing or willful reprogramming would all be impossible.
People evolve as personalities.
There are kids that steal all the time and then grow up and have no desire to steal. There are bloodthirsty killers who eventually deeply regret their actions. Conversely there are loving people who become killers. A single trauma can alter a personality immensely. Christians become atheists. Atheists become satanists.
Over decades of life I have witnessed people fundamentally changing to the point that they're simply not the same personality on any level whatsoever. In some cases it's really depressing, and in others it's inspiring. And of course there are people that truly never seem to change.
If all people couldn't change than redemption would be an illusion. People would be cemented down by their immature decisions and would never be able to learn from their mistakes.
Not learning from mistakes is the hallmark of a dim personality, not a prison that everyone is trapped in.
Anyone with half a brain learns from their mistakes, and people who are driven use mistakes to better themselves.
It's possible that some of this is semantics:
When Clif claims that nobody can actually raise their consciousness, he's probably talking about something different from what a person who is meditating to "raise their consciousness" is thinking of. In his view, people meditate to experience the void of the pulse, but a lot of people think Clif is a quack (not me) and don't believe in the pulse theory, but deeply enjoy meditation. Are they talking about two different things? Clif would probably posit that people just don't know that they're meditating on the void of the pulse, and some people might respond by telling him to go fuck himself, others might say he's onto something (hi).
He also clearly believes in reincarnation given his "Sigma Male" explanation of efforts that project posthumously, when he indicated that he wants to come back in 5k years and whatever work he's doing now will allow for a cooler place to come back to. Did he imply that he's going to come back as exactly the same personality? I think that would be absurd. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to him, Sigma Males are the people who do work so deep it carries momentum beyond their physical death; not clear on why they're male).
That all said... I'm happy to know that I'm not suddenly going to shift into Uncle Shaniqua at any given point. LOL!