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Of course everyone wants love etc., it's natural, I get that. And I'm addressing romantic love here.
But it's like some people are obsessed with love, finding love, receiving love from someone 'special'.
I think there's a natural function in this (um, reproduction), however I think some people want love to a selfish degree.
People want that validation from someone else... it's an ego thing, it's like they love themselves and want other peoples' admission of love. Or worse, they don't love themselves, so they're seeking validation from somebody else.
Therefore it's an immature thing.
Which brings me to my conclusion...
That obsession with wanting love is something you grow out of, you mature beyond it. Yeah you still want the standard love and all that, and you still consciously understand that romantic love is really just about reproduction.
But you're not obsessive about "finding" love or "looking" for somebody. It's like you don't care anymore. It's a great point to get to. But now I think about all the people who are all sad they don't have love and stuff, and even though I think a lot of that desire comes from a selfish place, it's still sort of sad to think about how sad they are.
LOL! Ah well... everybody's gotta learn sometime.
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I've definitely entered the "silent knowing" post-love club.
It happens when you've had enough life experience to know that love is bullshit...
But you sit back and keep it to yourself so that you don't trample all over the hopes and dreams of people who don't know it yet.
Let them have their fun, maybe their experiences will be "okay" and not too bad... there's always that chance.
That's my take on the whole topic now.
In a way, it does seem like I have a duty to drop hints here and there about love being a waste though...
But I'm not gonna become an anti-love activist or something.
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It really is such a waste of time though...
I do sometimes question whether or not we should even be putting the idea of love into people's heads.
The movies and shows and books and songs about love...
They're just giving people the wrong idea.
Is there a moral obligation to turn the tides and start balancing things out by telling the truth?
Which is pretty much the opposite of what you see preached about love in the aforementioned media...
Is there an obligation to warn people not to waste their time/energy/focus on love, or should they just be allowed to find out themselves??
I think all this media portrays love in an extremely biased way. I think that's morally wrong. I think it's created an imbalance in the world. So what is the right way to fix that?
You don't wanna go around seeming all negative... anything too far to one side is always fanatical.
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I think it'd be better to just never talk about love at all.
That way no one has expectations. If they happen across romance at some point in their lives, great.
But you can't snap your fingers and make all those decades of media propaganda about love disappear.
I just think it's done a lot of damage in the world.
People should have never been brainwashed about it in the first place. That kind of media just shouldn't even exist.
As much as love songs and movies have been shoved down people's throats since childhood? Pft. It should have never been allowed to happen in the first place.
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Getting past all those years of media brainwashing is hard.
If we never had any of that going on in society to begin with, things would be so much better.
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(02-01-2022, 01:16 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: As much as love songs and movies have been shoved down people's throats since childhood?
Just realized that there is so much media revolving around (romantic) love because it only exists in stories...
THAT'S why people write about it.
OMG that's so sad...
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They HAVE to make up stories about it or else they'd never experience it at all and neither would anyone else.
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I felt better thinking it was some kinda huge terrible conspiracy... I mean, it IS, in part.
But if somebody like me or any other regular person was inspired to write a story that had themes of romantic love in it... I don't think that really counts as some kind of grand conspiracy.
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Well, it'd still come from all the brainwashing that has been put in place, even if a normal person wrote it. So it's all tainted bullshit. But at least love stories written by regular people who aren't part of some wicked agenda would be more artistically valid than some media machine churned out bullshit.
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But yeah, I just think we all have a huge moral responsibility when it comes to writing love stories.
I think they should be framed in innately unattainable settings, so people don't get confused and think this stuff is possible between people.
So for example we could theorize a vaguely Earth-like planet far away, with vaguely humanlike lifeforms who go on a journey of romantic love together or some shit.
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(02-01-2022, 01:06 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: Let them have their fun, maybe their experiences will be "okay" and not too bad... there's always that chance.
Cuz let's face it... "just okay" is the best case scenario when it all comes down to it.
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A piece of petrified wood is a better choice of a life partner, that's for sure.
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Its not love its obsession vs balance. All those memories which become thoughts which become feelings and emotions.
Nothing you can do about them but accept them and "try" to remain in the present.
If they gave you a book on this as a kid people wouldn't become so obsessed with themselves, others, or their lives.
Love is abandonment and self consumed.
A bird will watch its life partner be squished on the road, and just go find another bird. (I have seen this)
Hominids are more complicated though, like chimpanzees removed from their mothers at an early age.
Often become violent or withdrawn. Hominids love their car so much they will beat the shit out of someone so bad.
They will end up in prison just because someone scratched it.
Just fix the scratch cos now you have no car.
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(08-03-2023, 11:12 AM)LoveIsOnlyAfeeling Wrote: A bird will watch its life partner be squished on the road, and just go find another bird. (I have seen this)
Interesting you mention this analogy, as I have seen the exact opposite scenario... I saw a bird mourn over the partner but it obviously had to vacate the area due to danger. So I don't think it moved on too happily.
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Human males though, they'll lose their wife of 50 years and get remarried within 6 months... it means nothing to them.
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Maid, chef, live in prostitute... that is what they look for. It's not about love, it's about slavery.
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As long as you're being a good slave, a man will "love" you. The female feels love, but the male feels either like a successful slave owner, or the owner of a disobeying slave who must be brought in line.
Females must have the ability to love, otherwise their offspring would die, they would have no innate drive to take care of their children. Males don't have this ability, thus why they constantly abandon their children.
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(08-03-2023, 01:08 PM)Chatwoman Wrote: Interesting you mention this analogy, as I have seen the exact opposite scenario... I saw a bird mourn over the partner but it obviously had to vacate the area due to danger. So I don't think it moved on too happily.
I have seen that too, but different species do different things.
I saved an English dove (which is vermin here) from a butcher bird (they are brutal birds).
It crawled under the fence I gave it a chance.
It was little it got hit, butcher birds were coming back for it, dunno if it lived but the butcher bird male came at me.
Im like come at me bro swung at it didn't want to mess with hominid. Literally swooped at me.
I almost smacked it in the head.
Native magpies here mourn over their own ive seen that. They all standing around on the road (you retards) pining over their family.
But in a week they got another bird. Then the ravens come eat it. I scooped it off the road and buried it.
Something (maybe a fox) dug it up and ate it.(found a skeleton)
I think you mean a native black bird. But they will find another one and not carry on about it.
Animals although they have the convenience of love, its just that convenience.
Breeding pair.
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I just don't really care about the whole thing anymore. Once you know the truth, there's an adjustment period when you're mindblown and shocked by the truth, and after that, it's just a fact like any other fact.
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